Ive had a couple of the Camillus knives and they had the years indicated: 1975 and 1981. by Colonel666 Wed May 29, 2013 10:48 pm, Post Thank you for the history. Force survival kit knife. I have several good photos of the knife which Id be happy to forward but there doesnt seem to be a way to send them to you on this site. So Ive read that one way to tell a WW2 Kabar is the pommel will be pinned from both sides as well as peened. Glen, Sears Roebucks in 9/26/1941. scabbard marked with the Eagle, Globe and Anchor is a current reproduction From DIY approaches to unconventional models and even taking the knife to experts, one of these methods will get you a proper timeline of your knife. 1960's-76 Camillus New York Wooden handle US military style 2 blade electricians folding pocket knife-3 3/4'hunting. We have over 75,000 pieces of Boy and Girl Scout Memorabilia to sell. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. However, the essential features of the knife have remained constant throughout the life of the knife. She found the knife with the only identifying marks showing " Cammilus New York USA". If you happen to have, Read More How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice)Continue, If you have spent some time here before, then we have dated some pretty amazing knives together. This was where he first got a taste for cutlery, which would later shape the man he became and the company he launched. Many thanks! That sold this great knife with blade, hilt and butt blued. It was used to open C-rations, cutting vines, skinning game and fish. the Camillus designs submitted for testing. There were of course Marines stationed on the base. An interesting fact was that in 1944 the BuOrd wanted all the contractors to switch to the pommel to that provided on the PAL knives, it created a big stink because it required all sorts of adjustments on the assembly line and extra pressure on those existing contractors that actually made the pommel. Thus, when the Ka-bar knife company was changing hands, it was also getting different stamps and logos. Both have black plastic pommel. The leather for the grip will be cut into washers, 1/8 inch in thickness. Example would be you have crashed landed and might be on your side up in the air. I have the knife and sheath, but not the sharpener. But so many times the answer can be quite complicated. Boy Scout Knife, Camillus Manufacturer, Whittler's Knife, used, blades in great condition but shank shows wear (CSE06) Please refer to the pictures for condition grading. One interesting thing about the sheath is it doesnt have the pocket for the stone. Another This causes a lot of confusion, Tyler, but the pommel peen is a better method to determine the WW2 knife. compares with this knife. I, too, have one that has a small Japan stamped on the blade at the hilt. I appreciate you writing this post and the rest of the site is very good. I have a MK2 copy that I bought in the US Army AAFES exchange in West Germany in the mid-1980s. I know they were all built to US Government Standards, but was there any difference in the performance of the knives issued. 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Pilot Survival Knife MIL-K-8662(AER). Paranitrophenol was first registered in the United States in 1963 as a fungicide incorporated into leather products and hides as a preservative. USMC next to the current repro which graphically shows the difference. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. Thanks for sharing. Not an easy knife to resharpen and the very tip was prone to breaking off. Powered by Invision Community, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY. Quality knives and tools with lowest prices. Thick blade and two piece rivets were replaced with a thinner . Thanks for the feedback. He believes these were ordered in 04/05/44. We inspected them and put them into survival gear for CH-46, CH-53,and cobras. the markings are all the same and in the same place as the originals. So both of mine in the first post are wartime? The one on the left there is a bevel at the top of the grip. and took them with me when the auction was over. It may add to your history file. It is knives like these that make some people on the outside question why Case knives are so expensive when they are just a great value for their money. Im assuming the knife is an earlier production but, as its a 5 inch blade, it has to be after 1961. The sharpening stone also has no marks as they were probably worn off from use. Camillus was also notorious for sometimes mixing up the tang stamps. by carrmillus Thu May 30, 2013 3:57 pm, Post if it was in Vietnam it must have been with some other folks not the US The one I have comes with a green pouch that went on the vest and the leather sheath was sewn into the pouch. It is knives like these that make some people on the outside question why Case knives are so expensive when they are just a great value for their money. room when the company was auctioned off. the M3 pommel and guard to improve their knife and help conserve parts. The knife company was resurrected in 2009, and they continue to use the last tang stamp till today. I have 2 Camillus Knives that are similar but different. J-7 marked Kent with Sportsman etching and stagged This guide to dating Camillus knives is focused on the Camillus-stamped knives only. Bone stag and CR guard made in In all other ways, it totally resembles the pilots survival knife distributed to the military in the 1950s. Even if the Ontario Knife Company discontinues their production and the DoD phases them out of their inventories, the knife will be around for commercial purchase. Not sure about the pommel stamping. As such, finding a definitive history of the development and procurement of this knife is difficult to reconstruct. Each manufacturer would like to put its spin on things. The Camillus S1765P USAF Utility Knife Tobias Gibson 7.5K views 2 years ago Rusty US Pilot Knife 1960's Restoration Lost & Restored 1.2M views 1 year ago Five US Military Pocket Knives from. the Above JPK and the Marbles in the 1953 to 1957 time frame. Woolworths, S3388: When the Marines formed the ParaMarines they needed a Surplus stores will purchase them in bulk through U.S. Government auctions, collectors will buy them at auctions, military museums will display them, and they will continue to be available for purchase on the internet. brass pins holding stagged bone over black plastic liners. The Air Force Survival Knife was introduced to the commercial market by Marble after not being awarded the DoD contract to supply the new survival knife to the military. That doesn't make it right, it just makes it how they were found from poor 1200 dozen made in Price $15,000.00, #5665 L66: This is the prototype for the WW II Army Air Consequently, the knife blade being reduced from six inches to five inches allowed it to retain some of the qualities necessary to carry out survival tasks, but small enough that it could be easily stowed on an aircrewmans vest without causing interference for aircrews trying to carry out their duties while flying. the markings are all the same and in the same place as the originals. Must have forgotten to take it out when I updated the piece with the second bullet point, Your email address will not be published. Thanks again for writing about this knife and taking the time to research it and share your findings. Here are some links to other threads touching on this subject. We were allowed to keep them when dicharged. The blade is very sharp but has surface deterioration and the guard seems rather dull. With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. Although it would appear that their presence in the theater of operations was mostly due to them being part of certain aircraft survival kits. Thanks! The knife is about 12 / 30.5 cm overall; blued blade is about 6-15/16 /17.7 cm. There won't be any pommel markings on this one. The similarities to Mark I knives are obvious, but they were procured and manufactured under different contracts and specifications. However, this was not the end of the aging Air Force Survival Knife. He was a family friend! Both have leather grips. Well I got my first one from and Army Helicopter pilot in Germany 1963. Im assuming its ok to to refurbish if for no other reason than to halt any deterioration on the blade or otherwise but Ill admit Im not a knife collector or adventurer so this would be more about preserving value than repairing it for use. This knife looks a lot like the original and with a little bit of use can be made to look old real quick. There was a metal guard that fit over the end of the blade when the folding machete was closed. They got into every kind of game and having different manufacturers along the line meant that they all didnt have to stick to the same design philosophy. Now, the efficacy of this model relies on having an antique book (or maybe a knife expert with access to such a book) that you can date the knife with. Each contractor had their personal signatures, better described as authorized deviations. In 1983, this registration was amended to add the use of the product for incorporation into cork insulation for military use. Maybe you can help me out here. Camillus Tang Stamps and Dates (www.bladeforums.com) Camillus Tang Stamps circa 1915-1946 -A WORK IN PROGRESS (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) . Mine is an old C make still kept in my truck. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This was one they wanted to make but never did. At the time of sale, the business was profitable but the new buyer ran it into the ground once again. I've heard arguments on both sides, but as of yet I'd be uncomfortable moving the positions beyond the level of opinion. Follow these steps to date the Ka-bar knife this way: Look around the knife for markings on the body. The Newer one is by Camillus the older one I got given to by my uncle, who got it from someone in Vietnam. Over the decades, this document has been updated. in the handle grip from the looks of it. Here is an example what I'm talking about, this is the grouping of Mark 1 knives with the designation of MARK 1 on the ricasso and treated blades. I've seen and/or handled eight bright finished examples besides the one I own and your pictures are the first examples of the parkerized ones. Still,, Read More How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods)Continue, The Case Kodiak is one of the most interesting exports from the company and continues to command a high price today. The Camillus Cutlery company also produced: Their production capacity was expanded during the second world war when they had to manufacture a lot of high-quality knives to meet the needs of the soldiers shipping off to war. Knife #1 and #2 were never found in the factory collection years ago, this A similar issue occurs when dating the Kinfolks knife, but the chances of that error are slim. This is usually where I first look at when dating knives. The knives will be sold as a group only. Find out more below. and special units so many time we almost gave up the argument on the subject. Entertaining and informing. edge. When speaking with them, make sure youre clear that youre not looking to sell. of Tom Williams, Camillus factory historian, I have assembled the I have never seen that variation. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Origins Of A New Survival Knife for Military Aircrews, The Air Force Survival Knife Introduced to the Commercial Market, Design Features for the Air Force Survival Knife, The blade is to be a through tang blade blanked from AISI 1095 steel conforming to MIL-S-8665, The blade will be tempered to a Rockwell Hardness of C50-C55. Knife Center.com has them in stock. They adopted the single pin In New York City. Going into 1944, treatment of the blades became more prevalent in the manufacture. The Air Force Survival Knife is an excellent knife. Thus, it took special care and attention to identify which company made which one, before going deeper to ascertain the date period around when the knife was made. Sweeping grind. the Army needed one as well to replace the M2 pocket knife. Enjoy and See you on the trail! It may not display this or other websites correctly. By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. JavaScript is disabled. You will also find examples of the otherwise same knife only with the blade finished bright. Can't recall seeing. You would often find knife collectors and enthusiasts who know a lot about these blades at knife shows. If you have also been stuck on how to date a Kabar knife properly before you landed on this piece, I believe you must have all the information you need right now. This is the early AAC knife with Rosewood plain grips and brass pins. This knife has been around for many years. To re-arrange a genuine item like this would be quite a task. If you, Read More How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New)Continue, Barlow knives are considered by some knife collectors to be up there with the 1918 trench knife. Just looks cute. It does, however, have a small Japan stamped in the blade at the hilt. You are able to get the knife because it is dummy corded to you. While no one retailer has all the original catalogs anymore, some kept some of these books around. Later, after service members began returning from Vietnam, the military-grade issued knives began to be seen on the market. The sheath shall be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-271, The sheath leather shall be 8/64-inch-thick. The iconic design features of the knife, that have characterized its look, have remained unchanged since its inception. Both are Camillus but one has a 1" longer blade. We see this one constantly on sale as a "Vietnam Before you go dating your ka-bar knife, I think you might want to know some of the challenges that you could encounter, and why. When I enlisted in 69 I got my next one from supply. You must log in or register to reply here. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. But this is Ontario. Pilot's Survival Knife. I became curious about the background and history of this knife about a year ago. Talking With Knife Collectors & Dealers: By having a fruitful conversation with knife collectors and dealers, you can also identify the Kabar Camillus knife. Look at these two knives in the photo below. I have three of these babies from my flying days with the U. S. Navy. Ive read reviews that claim the new ones (from Ontario) are not as good. Im pretty sure the 80 doesnt mean 1980 since Ive possessed it at least a couple years prior. They is a lot more ingredients to the batch of pudding for these knives. Why? Seems vagrant has an orange handled knife with a small blade protruding from it on picture #79. contracts. If you would like, I could send you a photo of this knife. A few members here have posted examples of that knife with the typical Camillus Mark 1 hilt and the fullered blade normally associated with the 5 inch pilots knife, but yes they don't show up too often. 5683 L75: The Camillus Mark 1 prototype reference piece. I find this method especially better for those who want to flip their ka-bar knives, or simply establish if it was made before/ around WWII or after. The Camillus Cutlery company closed shop in 2007, only to be resurrected in 2009 by Acme United Corporation, which acquired the naming rights. In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). Fortunately for us, Camillus changed their stamps enough to map each one to different periods. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. The M3 was originally designated for issue to soldiers not otherwise equipped with a bayonet. Dont expect to find an expert that will date your knife for free. and sold through the PX system as well. I used it for Scouting till 1968. I have one that my grandfather made for his brother in ww2 for the army air corps. repro has a very short and sharply curved false edge. storage. Co., Tidioute;Union Cut. by Colonel666 Sun May 26, 2013 1:43 am, Post While some are very rare, such as the L-76, L-77, "Bushman" and USMC parachutist knives, several examples are more ubiquitous. I like that, but cannot figure out what type of knife that may be. You could find either the USMC or USN MK2 marking on the knife. The sharpening stone shall be fabricated from silicon carbide, grain size 280, hardness P, vitrified bond. I do know that it has the serrated spine and in outward appearance may be an original except for the handle. The original contracts (August '59) for the JPK called for a 6" blade with threaded pommel attachment. In the guides to dating Schrade knives, dating kissing crane knives, and knowing what era your ka-bar knife is from, there were a lot of years to deal with. Both have black plastic pommel. To comply with the new corrosion resistant treatment, they then began treating their blades. I am 63 yo and have had this knife since I was a teenager. I carried it for next 8 years on my. The new design that was adopted was the 6 inch JPK. The sharpening stone size shall be 3 inches long, 7/8-inch-wide, and 1/4 inch thick. Co.Arc-shapedUSA, or Union; Stainless1912 1925Tidioute CUT. I attach a photo of the peened pommel that makes this 6" a 1960 model: Hi. As best as can be ascertained, the two holes are used as lashing points for cordage for survival tasks in the field, such as creating a hasty spear. If you check the pommel (end of the handle) under magnification, you may see a year stamp. Schrade Knife Identification (www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us) Schrade Knives (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) Victorinox. But your saying the WW2 knives dont have pins at all?, just peened? I agree. Camillus Kabar Knife History. These bayonets are very similar to the originals so you need to check Unbelievable piece. The knifes performance was dependent on the users knowledge and skills. Model number 5686. Great knife for camping or scouting I carried mine on walks in the woods. I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. I am trying to find any information on a 7 inch U.S. Camillus. S-5382 Half guard prototype with scaler back and 3 small I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. Marbles taught Camillus how to do it. Mikedon thanks for posting the pictures. One of the challenges in dating a ka-bar knife that I mentioned above is the loss of original catalogs which these knives were sold with. Mine has a blued blade and crossguard. It is possible that the knife may have been purchased commercially and not issued through the supply chain. and the empty draws. December 15, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS. I have a 5 knife marked Ontario 10-76. USMC Raider reproduction with fine pewter handle. This is when Camillus re-designed their screw top pommel. I have sent you an email to see how I may be able to help. Any You have a very scarce Camillus MARK 1. After the completion of testing and bidding competition between Marble, Camillus Cutlery, and the Ontario Knife Company (OKC), Camillus was awarded the contract to supply the new Jet Pilot Survival Knife (JPSK) to the Department of Defense instead of Marble. That is surely a lot of information to keep track of. business. The leather will be treated with para-nitrophenol fungicide. As the development and testing process began to take shape, updates to the original specification documents were published. The journey of this iconic knife has been exciting to discover. Rosewood and steel domed rivets. The design features for this knife came about through various inputs from servicemembers, survivability researchers, and training developers. Thus, finding ways of reducing the bulk of the Aviation Life Support Equipment (ALSE) assisted in the overall weight considerations for flying. I may be wrong but it may have been produced between 1970-1990, maybe in Asia. These are the remaining items that were left in the Camillus factory show Some Comments on the Design Features of the Air Force Survival Knife, Further Developments of the Air Force Survival Knife. The post-1962 knives were produced by the Camillus Cutlery Company and Milpar during the Vietnam Era. Another possibility, is that a previous owner modified the knife after it was issued or purchased. Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. Any information is appreciated. St Louis with Indian Trail grooved bone and large rivets. These markings will usually show on the tang since they are less likely to wear and be scratched off there. We were rightfully concerned with losing our knife if we had to ditch over water. I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. Here is an earlier & longer pilot (aircrew) survival knife by Camillus aka, the Folding Bolo- Army Air Corp Emergency Machete a.jpg Army Air Corp Emergency Machete.jpg Here it is folded- Army Air Corp Emergency Machete j.jpg You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Ontarios model became the Aircrew Survival and Egress Knife, System (ASEK) based on the published requirements by the U.S. Army. Likewise, dont just take their dates for it. where possible. It was enlightening to discover that there is very little information available on the background and origins of this knife. 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. Christopher, How to Date A Ka-Bar Knife (5 Unique Methods), How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods), How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice), How to Date Klein Knives to A Specific Year or Era (5 Methods), How to Date a Kissing Crane Knife (Both Old and New), How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More), How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods). companies to design the Para knife. Kent Stagged Rosewood with steel rivets, same as above. No date or manufacturer is stamped anywhere. I may also be able to confirm if the knife was a gift from my uncle who worked on helicopter camera equipment in the Vietnam war. They've put a pretty generous recurve in the blade and shape of the handle plays well with standard and reverse grips. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, stagged Rosewood with brass pins Same as above but handle more rounded. hunting knives from parts on hand. Sent to the Jeffersonville Quartermaster, it is essentially a 6 Charlie I happen to agree with your take here. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. The Air Force Survival Knife has had a storied, yet obscure, history. The 1954 update calls for the knife to have a sharpened clip point blade and an additional rivet to the sheath. Heres another variant knife that Frank Trzaska mentions in his 6/01/2002 knife knotes. It is also suspected that knife makers will begin to find ways to improve the knife and manufacture their versions of the knife similar to what knife companies are doing with other legacy knife designs. Their commercial version of the survival knife had a polished blade instead of a subdued or blued blade, brass guard, and polished pommel. Hoping to try and date them but I am finding conflicting information. 5684: This is the WW II USMC blade marked knife in the Never knew that opinions could be this varied. Nickel silver guards made in 1948. While some other companies have taken over the design and started to make modern versions, there is simply nothing like the older units that first came out under the original Klaas company. It is further described as "Used in all types of emergency kits." The back piece has also been cut-through by the blade over the years, so the metal addition was definitely needed. When you have a knife that meets the specs above, it could only have been made in 1944 or 1945. A Short History of the U. S. 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