Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. You Go Girl! I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? Have you been in contact with her at all? Its more secure. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Double jeopardy? Did he eat? Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. The Journal & Courier confirmed with law enforcement that the affidavit is authentic. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. Police questioned Kegan Kline about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020, interview at the Indiana State . Archived post. You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. After all, there was nothing they could have done anyway. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. The 2017 murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, shook the country. Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. Isnt that logical. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? Oh, one more thing. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German disappeared from the Delphi Historic trails while taking an afternoon stroll on Feb. 13, 2018, as previously reported. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. Are you speculating? If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. Great to see you back on the case! BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. The murders of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, shocked the small town of Delphi, Indiana because of their apparent randomness. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. Latest: Hope32. Three people were shot and now recovering after a shooting in Philadelphia. Indiana detectives reveal fake male model Instagram account - set up by jailed pedophile - was used to CATFISH the two 14-year-old Delphi girls murdered in 2017 - in bombshell development If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. The motive was sexual. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Always. Empiricism is a thing. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Is that also speculation? Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. But I see the home is raised. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. Also its very hot here and all I feel like doing is sleeping all the time. Also, you develop better sources. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. TX TX - Colorado Co, WhtFem 27-43, UP4564, pink chiffon blouse, gray flannel pants, sandal, Jan'76. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? We can look into any case we want! We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also staged. In other words, they were faked. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. He killed a woman. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. Have for a long time. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. . Which of them is LEs chief suspect? How about never? One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. Got it? Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. Thank you so much! Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. It is high time this comes to fruition. The others are guardians. The rest are guardians. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Anyway, even if there was PIV sex, the victim would have died soon after the sex and the tiniest speck of a fetus, the size of a pencil dot on a sheet of paper, along with it. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. Tuesday 27 December 2022 22:58 Bodycam footage from night of Idaho murders A University of Idaho professor has filed a lawsuit against a woman who baselessly linked her to the brutal murders. Drunkard perhaps. DELPHI, Ind. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. LE still has access to the conviction. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Before the shooting, police believe a silver . DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. Its burgundy. Some claims are listed as unverified. Theres no woman among them. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. Well, guess what? The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. That is when they discovered Klines fake anthony_shots profile, soliciting minor girls online. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! We dont do that on here and never have. Want me to put it up anyway? I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs. See video. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. Much more on that below. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. Robert, have you heard that Mr X had a deer blind on the Mears property? Our reporting partners at WPTA in Fort Wayne spoke with IUPUI Professor and Director of the Forensic and Investigative Sciences Program John Goodpaster. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. FORT WAYNE, Ind. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. Meanwhile, there are more questions since the court documents did not reveal the cause of death for Abby and Libby. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. Forget it. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. Would love to join the private group. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Theyre not that common. Nobody has been arrested in the case but details have slowly been revealed about. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Currently Awaiting Trial. However, there was one little problem. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. I find your blog very interesting. Or wet sneaker. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. Its at his home on a shelf! BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Thanks. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Im getting, at the home!. the healing energy of your hands pdf; Hello Jacqui. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. 7) Hes local. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? I have no idea why shes doing this, but its not because she killed her own sister. Hey, its a capitalist country, right? Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. Why dont you do a show on our theories. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Hmm . Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Its not free though. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Enough is enough. She was emphatic about that. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. How do you join and can you join as a European? They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. We know there are key POI in other murders including Delphi residing in Wabash and possibly Logansport at that time. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. Idle speculation at its finest. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. Email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. What are they doing to move this forward? You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. See I dont remember ever saying to meet up with me, though, Kline responded. They say they want to preserve the integrity of the investigation. Thats a full 18 hours. Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Delphi murders: Family of James Chadwell says he is 'absolutely capable' of killing 2 teens He reappeared on radar last month when charged with kidnapping, attempted murder of 9-year-old. You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. Updated: 7:18 PM EST December 20, 2021. Your critiques are not even making sense. Thank you for stopping by the site. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. John Kelly has some good information. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. He was also being investigated as a possible suspect in the kidnapping and murders of . I dont care what anybodys age is. So I held off. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? Hes been on my radar for a long time now. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. High Robert, I see on Reddit that they mention you in a negative way, but dont listen to those people! How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. Too much points to them to be coincidence. Few of the illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched the real truth about this case as laid out in this website, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. Now he says he never saw BG at all. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. This has helped me a lot. Last, I want to bring up RL and the dirty hand LE dealt him throughout all of this. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. You had mentioned in one of your blogs not being sure what he did for a living. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. Are you serious? RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. These are simply unverified rumors. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police.

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